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Hey everyone,
Well, you know I will want to add my two cents to a thread on politics. Yes, we have been very involved concerning this issue and I certainly have info on it. I won’t give a diatribe on the importance of getting involved but I will say this……
Many of you are correct about the abundance of information and it becomes very hard to disseminate between reality and propaganda. I say first and foremost, yes, it’s always important to remember that all of this is ultimately in God’s hands. That is not to say that he intends for us to sit by ignorant and uninvolved until the day he returns. There are MANY instances in the bible where God had people prepare for dire times and fight……It’s hard to get Americans concerned and involved about the world we live in…..we take our liberties and freedoms for granted and just blindly believe they will always be there for us and our children……they are ONLY there because of the foresight, diligence, determination, fighting spirit, and perseverance of the founders of our great nation. Don’t be fooled……we are loosing them!
For those that aren’t sure about the speculation on the “mobs” at the town hall meetings…..I can tell you as a participant at those town hall meetings and as both a participant and organizer of recent Tea Party’s…….we are not being encouraged or paid by anyone!! We are regular, working Americans who have decided enough is enough and we aren’t going to sit back and let our country be high jacked and our liberties taken away!
The problem in the current health care system is not cost per se but excess cost. Excess cost occurs from under-utilization and over-utilization of services. In fact, the proposals would worsen the already bleak outlook on health care costs. Because the overall cost of health care is not being reduced, expansion of coverage--largely through new government programs--will require even more taxpayer subsidies (taxes!)…………Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security are already broke (n), how the heck is this supposed to work?!!!
AND……
Though House Democrats don’t know (or won’t say) how much their government takeover will cost, here’s what we do know: the plan will make health care more expensive and hit the middle class particularly hard with higher taxes, rationed care, and new health care costs. As millions of families and small businesses are struggling to make ends meet while making responsible choices, this plan forces those that make responsible decisions to foot the bill for those who don’t!
Also, this legislation represents a tremendous increase in the power of the federal government, that might not seem like much to some folks, but they are inching in......private companys (car companies), banks, insurance, healthcare......they aren't going to knock the door down....they are going to come in the back door......rather unassumingly.....
I’m just going to give a couple little highlights of the bill………the entire thing is available online at many different sites…..they are betting, however, that the same number of Americans who have never taken the time to pay attention….will still just stick their head in the sand!
Also, be aware that because the public plan is a political creation, political decisions would overrule ALL OTHER considerations concerning key items: benefit levels, premium levels, co-payments, the kinds of medical treatments that could or could not be included! A Lobbyist field day!!
A few facts:
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill – a Government committee (good luck with that!) will decide what treatments/benefits a person may receive.
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE WILL BE RATIONED! (We all knew this, because health care is rationed in Canada and Britain, but Obama kept saying it would not be).
Pg 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You will have no choice!
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise. OMG!!!!
Pg 58 HC Bill – Government will have real-time access to individual’s finances and a National ID Healthcard will be issued! (That’s super comforting!)
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your bank accts for election funds transfer.
PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No Company can sue Government on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Government Monopoly…….Hmmmm
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ AMA - The Government will tell YOU what you can earn. (That should certainly encourage people to become physicians!)
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. (AGAIN, NO CHOICE.)
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll $400k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll. (OF COURSE!)
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between $251k & $400k who don’t provide public option pay 2-6% tax on all payroll. (AGAIN, OF COURSE!)
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.) (Really?...that’s a shocker!)
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (the GOVERNMENT) will have access to ALL Americans’ finances and personal records.
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” (Yes, it says that!)
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Doctors – doesn’t matter what specialty – will all be paid the same. (that should encourage competition and ultimately mastery of skill…NOT)
PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of Doctor’s time, professional judgment, etc. Literally, value of humans.
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – (Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!)
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Government will penalize hospitals for what Government deems preventable readmissions.
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors who treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission - Government will penalize you!
Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Government tells Doctors what/how much they can own!
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion - Government will mandate hospitals cannot expand.
Pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. (Can u say ACORN?!)
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc., forcing people into Government plan.
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Committee. Healthcare by phone. (Fantastic!!....that should be very helpful)
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations - Think Senior Citizens end of life prodding.
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in how to die.
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends.
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “advanced care planning consultant” will be used frequently as patients’ health deteriorates.
PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life!
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION. 1 monthly payment to a community-based organization. (Like ACORN?...again, big shocker)
Well, you know I will want to add my two cents to a thread on politics. Yes, we have been very involved concerning this issue and I certainly have info on it. I won’t give a diatribe on the importance of getting involved but I will say this……
Many of you are correct about the abundance of information and it becomes very hard to disseminate between reality and propaganda. I say first and foremost, yes, it’s always important to remember that all of this is ultimately in God’s hands. That is not to say that he intends for us to sit by ignorant and uninvolved until the day he returns. There are MANY instances in the bible where God had people prepare for dire times and fight……It’s hard to get Americans concerned and involved about the world we live in…..we take our liberties and freedoms for granted and just blindly believe they will always be there for us and our children……they are ONLY there because of the foresight, diligence, determination, fighting spirit, and perseverance of the founders of our great nation. Don’t be fooled……we are loosing them!
For those that aren’t sure about the speculation on the “mobs” at the town hall meetings…..I can tell you as a participant at those town hall meetings and as both a participant and organizer of recent Tea Party’s…….we are not being encouraged or paid by anyone!! We are regular, working Americans who have decided enough is enough and we aren’t going to sit back and let our country be high jacked and our liberties taken away!
The problem in the current health care system is not cost per se but excess cost. Excess cost occurs from under-utilization and over-utilization of services. In fact, the proposals would worsen the already bleak outlook on health care costs. Because the overall cost of health care is not being reduced, expansion of coverage--largely through new government programs--will require even more taxpayer subsidies (taxes!)…………Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security are already broke (n), how the heck is this supposed to work?!!!
AND……
Though House Democrats don’t know (or won’t say) how much their government takeover will cost, here’s what we do know: the plan will make health care more expensive and hit the middle class particularly hard with higher taxes, rationed care, and new health care costs. As millions of families and small businesses are struggling to make ends meet while making responsible choices, this plan forces those that make responsible decisions to foot the bill for those who don’t!
Also, this legislation represents a tremendous increase in the power of the federal government, that might not seem like much to some folks, but they are inching in......private companys (car companies), banks, insurance, healthcare......they aren't going to knock the door down....they are going to come in the back door......rather unassumingly.....
I’m just going to give a couple little highlights of the bill………the entire thing is available online at many different sites…..they are betting, however, that the same number of Americans who have never taken the time to pay attention….will still just stick their head in the sand!
Also, be aware that because the public plan is a political creation, political decisions would overrule ALL OTHER considerations concerning key items: benefit levels, premium levels, co-payments, the kinds of medical treatments that could or could not be included! A Lobbyist field day!!
A few facts:
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill – a Government committee (good luck with that!) will decide what treatments/benefits a person may receive.
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE WILL BE RATIONED! (We all knew this, because health care is rationed in Canada and Britain, but Obama kept saying it would not be).
Pg 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You will have no choice!
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise. OMG!!!!
Pg 58 HC Bill – Government will have real-time access to individual’s finances and a National ID Healthcard will be issued! (That’s super comforting!)
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your bank accts for election funds transfer.
PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No Company can sue Government on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Government Monopoly…….Hmmmm
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ AMA - The Government will tell YOU what you can earn. (That should certainly encourage people to become physicians!)
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. (AGAIN, NO CHOICE.)
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll $400k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll. (OF COURSE!)
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between $251k & $400k who don’t provide public option pay 2-6% tax on all payroll. (AGAIN, OF COURSE!)
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.) (Really?...that’s a shocker!)
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (the GOVERNMENT) will have access to ALL Americans’ finances and personal records.
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” (Yes, it says that!)
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Doctors – doesn’t matter what specialty – will all be paid the same. (that should encourage competition and ultimately mastery of skill…NOT)
PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of Doctor’s time, professional judgment, etc. Literally, value of humans.
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – (Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!)
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Government will penalize hospitals for what Government deems preventable readmissions.
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors who treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission - Government will penalize you!
Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Government tells Doctors what/how much they can own!
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion - Government will mandate hospitals cannot expand.
Pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. (Can u say ACORN?!)
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc., forcing people into Government plan.
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Committee. Healthcare by phone. (Fantastic!!....that should be very helpful)
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations - Think Senior Citizens end of life prodding.
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in how to die.
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends.
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “advanced care planning consultant” will be used frequently as patients’ health deteriorates.
PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life!
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION. 1 monthly payment to a community-based organization. (Like ACORN?...again, big shocker)
The really scary thing folks, is this is only a speck at the top of the iceberg……and unfortunately as Americans continue to just sit by and say….."Yeah, it’s probably not going to be a good thing", while they play their little computer games, watch their TV shows, etc……..our country and lives as we know it is going to drastically change forever!
The country that you envision your children growing up in……wrong, it’s not going to be what they end up with. But as usual, why get involved? Let someone else fight that fight or just continue to throw out lame excuses as to your lack of involvement or ignorance to the issues. Do us all a favor though,……..don’t complain later!
By the way.......Congress voted AGAINST putting themselves on Gov't Healthcare!!........Hmmm.
Thanks, Melanie! There are definitely some points on there that are amazingly sketchy! I'm surely one who sits on her rear and watches tv, plays computer games, and writes...and hopes it won't be so bad. I'm glad I have a friend who pays attention and can highlight some of the more important things in life for me. The thing that surprises me, and bothers me, the most is the access to financial goings-on, both patients and doctors. What?
ReplyDeleteConsider me prodded.